if the senate becomes -- be this town becomes a town that is even more gridlocked than it is now, and then the republicans own this, look, you know, somebody e-mailed me today and said, hey, i'm from minnesota. we've tried this tea party experiment. we did it in the version of jesse ventura and four years -- about two years after the fact, they got over it and this person was sort of predicting, that is probably the way this angry middle of the road voter might be now, tempted to say throw them all out what the heck, give these tea partiers a chance, they are not going to like what they get, these guys might come here and say, grind the gears, you know? put the brakes on. >> republicans don't necessarily lose with harry reid sitting up there, the face of the democratic party in washington, d.c. him and obama. frankly, i talked to a conservative, said he hopes pelosi, reid and obama are the face of the democratic party going into 2012. the key, chris, is to do what nixon did in 1968, bring that conservative base, which was disenchanted with the rockefellers, bring those guys together and try to reach that working class democratic group, which is frankly the national majority.